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  Kids in my kingdom hall

  by Akid48 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i think my last post i said i went to a new congregation,i'm going to just talk about some of the shit i have seen in my congregation.. there was a kid trying to talk to a adult next to him i think it was his dad,the kid just started taping him because he wanted to tell him something and the dad gets mad then boom the kid gets elbowed.i look around to see if anyone saw him do that to his kid and nope or they didn't want to say anything about it and just like wtf.. in my old congregation,the younger kids would do random stuff in the middle of the meeting to not get board.

  when the mom or dad got mad i would see then get dragged to the back of the kingdom hall and hear them start crying.when i was still mentally in i just didnt think about it at all when it would happen but when i woke up im just like thats fucked up..

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  @Akid48: "When the mom or dad got mad I would see then get dragged to the back of the kingdom hall and hear them start crying."

  Oof. You just brought up some memories. Back in the mid 90s, our hall had vinyl-covered seats instead of the more plush fabric ones today. I was a toddler fiddling with the freshly sharpened lead pencil and pad of paper I'd been given to "take notes". I'll never forget testing out how sharp the pencil was, because I punctured the vinyl cushion with it.

  Big mistake.

  When it made the little "pop" sound, I looked up at my father. Wordlessly, he wrapped his iron-vice hand around my little spaghetti noodle arm and dragged me to the back foyer of the hall. I knew what was coming as my feet couldn't even touch the ground when he strode up the aisle with me.

  That was one of many instances of getting pulverized at the back of the hall that I can remember. @john.prestor's research into shame and domination (https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5163702555770880/jehovahs-witnesses-shame-domination) when recruiting new Witnesses goes right back to JWs being recruited out of the womb. Because that's all I felt as I was kneed back down the aisle after everyone had heard my cries and screams; red faced and stifling sobs, I was filled with shame after being dominated.
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  WOODSTOCK

  by lastmanstanding in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it’s starting to filter in, the truth about why the grumpy buzzards wanted to move to warwick.

  lol.

  they are unhappy that their best time in life was moved to bethel and are hoping to relive woodstock in the place it should have been 49 years ago next month.

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  Guardians of Baloney.
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  WOODSTOCK

  by lastmanstanding in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it’s starting to filter in, the truth about why the grumpy buzzards wanted to move to warwick.

  lol.

  they are unhappy that their best time in life was moved to bethel and are hoping to relive woodstock in the place it should have been 49 years ago next month.

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  Guess you're no longer the last man standing.
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  WOODSTOCK

  by lastmanstanding in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it’s starting to filter in, the truth about why the grumpy buzzards wanted to move to warwick.

  lol.

  they are unhappy that their best time in life was moved to bethel and are hoping to relive woodstock in the place it should have been 49 years ago next month.

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  Googley-eyed Buttholes. *sniggers* We both know how fast @Brokeback Watchtower would re-convert if that were true.
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  WOODSTOCK

  by lastmanstanding in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it’s starting to filter in, the truth about why the grumpy buzzards wanted to move to warwick.

  lol.

  they are unhappy that their best time in life was moved to bethel and are hoping to relive woodstock in the place it should have been 49 years ago next month.

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  @punkofnice Giggling Baboons.
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  Welcoming Our Latest JW Apologist JTrottigy

  by pale.emperor in

  1. social
  2. humour

  i'd like to take this opportunity to warmly welcome our newest jw apologist jtrottigy.

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  he'll likely only be here for a few days like most jw defenders before he runs away when presented with his own doctrine.. so far he's already said some hilarious stuff, like "there's no such thing as nepotism in jehovah's organisation", "confidentiality is paramount to elders" and, my personal favourite "the overlapping generation is so simple to understand".. yh don't think i don't remember you from jwtalk..

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  Holy spirit

  by mrssauk in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what is the difference (if any) between being guided by holy spirit and being inspired by holy spirit?

  is it just semantics?.

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  @eyeuse2badub: "Holy Spirit or fairy dust. What is the difference?"

  Fairy dust has a higher success rate at capturing the light.
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  WOODSTOCK

  by lastmanstanding in

  1. watchtower
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  it’s starting to filter in, the truth about why the grumpy buzzards wanted to move to warwick.

  lol.

  they are unhappy that their best time in life was moved to bethel and are hoping to relive woodstock in the place it should have been 49 years ago next month.

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  Upvote for "Goofy Bastards" .
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  Dutch House of Representatives formally requests the government to start an investigation re. JW child abuse

  by Anders Andersen in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  today the dutch house of representatives unanimously voted to petition the government to start an investigation into jw child abuse issues.. the request from the house of reps. came after jw nl refused to listen to repeated and serious requests from the government to start an independent investigation themselves.. now it's up to the government to either accept the request by the house of reps. and start an investigation, or refuse to do so and explain to the house why.

  it appears the minister of justice is not unwilling to start an investigation though.... collection of dutch news items here.

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  @sparrowdown: "David Splaine with a whiteboard, a pointer and a list of the three D's of fighting child abuse accusations.

  Deny

  Discredit

  Destroy"

  No joke, back when the Royal Commission caused its initial buzz in the community, the COBE of my congregation taught us a mantra for the platform to remember whenever a householder confronted us on the child abuse issue. He called it "The Three C's:

  We don't Condone it.

  We Condemn it.

  And we don't Cover it up."

  I remember riding home with my parents after that meeting and my father repeating it in the car for us to lock it into our memories. So, your Triple D theory is not far off from what was instructed of Witnesses back in 2015!
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  Scared Kids with cognitive dissonance

  by Wakanda in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  this is not about sexual child abuse, and i apologize if i put it under the wrong subject area.

  stream of consciousness writing: .

  i was just thinking about how before i became more of an uber dub in my teen years i was a very frightened child.

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  It's okay to be vulnerable here, @Wakanda :). We hear you.

  From what I gather, your silent compliance stemmed from necessity rather than choice. When you say there were "popularity contests" among your relatives, I can just imagine the pressure you must have felt to internalize all your struggles. After all, any sign of less-than-perfect conduct is a reflection on the whole family's "reputation" in the congregation and the extended relatives. I find familiarity with you there.

  While this childhood oppression you underwent may have given your short-sighted parents a handle on any challenging behaviors and emotions you would have naturally felt rising within you, it only served to store up a huge amount of difficulty later on in life... because, well, here we are talking about the "love" your parents used as a currency on an anonymous forum decades later.

  I'm so sorry that your real thoughts and feelings got buried back then. I can only wonder how many more of the present generation of JW youths are also becoming the keeper of too many secrets, and appalling communicators of the many unpopular, yet important things needing addressing.

  Another significant issue with the perfect JW child is, they have no experience of people being able to tolerate their badness. They've missed out on a vital privilege of a healthy child - that of being able to display envious, greedy and maniacal sides that could yet be tolerated and loved nevertheless. Instead, they are forced into a version of reality where, unless they remain in order, they are otherwise unlovable. Given your own memories and recollections, we both know children aren't stupid - they can tell when things just don't seem quite "right" in their family ideals.

  The sociological breakdown of adults in the religion suffering from ailments is a well-covered issue, but I do wonder now how many psychosomatic symptoms are actually being generated in the pre-teen strata since you've mentioned your own case. This may be an area worth us investigating.